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progress, which looked at under the romney/ryan plan, under their voucher plan, one of the few things that romney did not abandon in the debate. that means that people in my generation have to come up with $200,000 before we retire to cover the health care that we're currently guaranteed because of what we pay in every week with payroll tax. for a baby boomer that's about $60,000 before they retire. for millenniums, it's going to be even worse. these are real costs at the kitchen table. and obviously as newt gri noted, romney's plan is daz 5 trillion tax plan. it is heavily weighted towards the top. i think voters are smarter than mitt romney thinks and i think they're going to want to know the real facts. >> let's talk about virginia specifically here. this is a state where, where the race is extremely tight right now. the latest nbc news/"wall street journal," marist college poll showing 48% of likely voters supporting the president, 46% supporting governor romney. that's a virtual tie there. you can also see that governor romney gained two points from september. the president lost
's the romney plan. he said it four or five times that i have seen on tape. it's a bald-faced lie and he got away with it last night. he got away with it because the president was very tepid in the way he called him on it. and what the president should have said is come on, mitt, i have seen you on tape five times saying you're going to cut the tax rate for everyone by 20%. that means the richest americans are going to get their rate down from 35% to 28%. how can you stand there and lie to the american people? you have got to play hardball. that's the name of the show. >> lying is exactly what he was doing there. i didn't mean to interrupt governor, but lying is exactly what he was doing. the pre-existing condition one was the most shocking to me. the fact is his plan does not cover pre-existing conditions for people who don't have insurance already. he pretended that it did. that's just a lie. what, does he not know about his own health care plan? >> okay, why didn't the president say that? let me just tell you this, there is one advantage to doing this show every night. you guys commenting
, because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments that we need to make without dumping those costs onto middle class americans, i think, is one of the central questions of this campaign. >> both of you have spoken about a lot of different things. we're going to try to get through them in as specific a way as we can. but first, governor romney, do you have a question you'd like to ask the president directly about something he just said? >> well, sure, i'd like to clear up the record and go through piece by piece. i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of a scale you're talking about. my view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high next people. high income people are doing just fine in this economy. they'll do fine if you're president or i am. the people having a hard time now
take them to the emergency room, that that is his health care plan? did the president know that romney had said people who didn't have continuing coverage shouldn't get covered for pre-existing conditions, that it was simply their fault for not having paid up all those years? the whole thing, the whole thing last night could have gone a whole different way. and that's hardball for now. thanks for being with us. politics nation with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead. the real mitt romney. there's been a lot of talk about last night's debate. who won, who lost. but the real debate last night was between mitt romney and mitt romney. and being so contradictory, mr. romney opened a huge line of attack for the president. not just for 90 minutes, but for the 33 days until this election. and today in a blistering speech, the president took full advantage of the opportunity that romney's dishonest performance invited. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have b
. governor romney's plan calls for $8 trillion, how we pay for that reduce the deficit and make the investments that we need to make without dumping those costs on middle class americans i think is one of the central questions of this campaign. >> both of you have spoken about a lot of different things. first governor romney do you have a question you would like to ask the president directly about something he just said? >> romney: sure. first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. my view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class, but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. they are doing just fine in this economy. the people having a hard time right now are middle income americans. they have been buried. they are just being crushed. middle income americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself i'll call it the economy tax. it has been crushing. at the same time gasoline prices have doubled under the president, electric rates are up fo
, at least obama is talking about raising taxes and revenue and i don't think we know what romney's plan is, he won't share any details with us. i'll tell you what though, you say everything is about cutting spending. you know, gary, europe has been cutting spending like crazy and look where europe's headed. their talk, a lot of evidence that they're in recession now, because they've been way overaggressive about austerity and i don't think that would be good for the u.s. >> there's a lot of differences between us and europe, toby, what do you think this plan, this specific economic patriotism plan will do to debt and to the economy here in the u.s.? >> well, of course, debt is going to go up. remember, this is a code word. patriotism is a code word for we'll borrow another, and borrow another, if you take the spending wave structure and take it out ten years, we get to that point like greece, like spain, where it's a point of no return. there is a point at which, when interest rates go up and of course, they will, and as interest rates go up, all of a sudden, 20% and then 30%, our entire b
's tax plan. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. >> when president obama says that governor romney is going to provide a $5 trillion tax cut, he's only telling half the story. governor romney proposes a 20% across-the-board income tax cut, and to abolish the estate taxes. >> reporter: governor romney still hasn't described in detail how he's going to accomplish his revenue-neutral plans without raising taxes on the middle class, without increasing the deficit. now to president obama's claim that he'd only raise taxes on upper income people to where they were under president clinton. >> i have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president, when we created 23 million new jobs. >> what president obama is leaving out there is that there are new taxes in the health care law, specifically that would target high-income earners. in fact, they would be paying a higher rate than they did under president clinton. >> reporter: finally, gover
bernstein explained to al sharpton that the math in mitt romney's tax plan doesn't add up. >> if you're going to cut taxes 20% across the board, which is mitt romney's plan, you're going to blow a $5 trillion hole over ten years in the government's revenue. now, what governor romney says is i can make that up by closing tax expenditures and loopholes, but there's two problems with that. one, the arithmetic. if you look at people over 200,000, just look at the wealthiest couple of percent, the revenue cuts about $250 billion, and the deductions, the broadening of the base, gets you back about 160. so you're short about $90 billion. >> and don't miss reverend al sharpton and "politics nation" weekdays at 6:00 eastern here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> so how will today's monthly jobs report impact the candidates? economists are predicting the unemployment rate could tick up from 8.1 to 8.2%, which could be bad news for president obama. brian mooar has the latest. he's in washington. good morning. >> reporter: hi, lynn. even if it's not great news today, it probably could be wor
romney's answers. >> he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan and that's how it's going to be paid for, but we don't know the details, he says that he's going to replace dodd frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us, he now says he's going to replace obamacare and assure the good things in it are going to be in there, and you don't have to worry. and at some point, i think, the american people have to ask themselves is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class families are too much from them? >> jason, the president have a point? >> well, romney know have not been specific and some of us have been urging him on the tax issue. he was very specific on the tax issue. >> he was specific in repudiating obama tax plan thought did he an excellent job of that. the president has been relying on a report that has been debunked left and right by people about how romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to p
night debate. a look at romney's plan. what gets cut and where the revenue would come from. lori: let take a look at metals like we do every day at this time. silver is also gaining ground. copper is flat. i think people feeling better about the economy. gold is a precious metal trade. we will be back with more after this. ♪ ♪ melissa: one of the hottest topics in last night's debate was taxes. especially that romney's plans. he has answered some of his critics giving other details of his plans. rich edson is in washington with more on this story. this was one of the big talking point last night for sure. >> yes, it really was. he is leaving most of the details of to congress. predicting what it would actually do. here is what we do know, romney reduces taxes by cutting marginal rates by 20%. repealing the amt. the tax policy center says all that means is tax cuts of $480 billion in the year 2015. the obama campaign will divide that by ten and there is a $5 trillion tax cut figure over the next decade the president repeatedly cited during the debate. that is misleading. romney say
a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any specifics to chris wallace on fox news. he said he had no time. >> i'm going to give you the time now to answer the question. >> when i start getting the numbers. >> that's right. >> ryan was given the time by bloomberg television. he had a new excuse for not being specific. he says mitt romney can't show congress all of his cards before he gets elected. >> you don't say to congress to democrats you want to work with, take it or leave it. it's
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approaches, the two economic plans. governor romney believes that tax cuts for the wealthy grow jobs. most of us understand that those sorts of tax cuts are what grow deficits. they don't grow jobs. and president obama and his opportunity economy, i thought that exchange was lucid. i don't think it was a game changer tonight. the president handled himself with a more dignified reserve. when governor romney was tested, he got kind of testy. and i thought that the president maintained his cool throughout and did well. >> what about the president's cool and the president's dignified reserve as you put it, do you think he's going to have to change that style going forward in these debates? >> i don't believe so. i think that -- >> if you could coach him on the next debate, if you could do ten minutes of coaching on the next debate, based on what you saw tonight, what would you tell him to do differently? >> oh, i don't know. i think that the president has to keep doing what he's doing. i think he has to be truthful about why he's made the choices for us that he has made. i think he has to keep
. >> reporter: the theme of the debate for president obama appeared to be that romney's plans lacked specifics. >> is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans secret because it's too good? >> reporter: governor romney spent the night attacking his record. >> we still have deficit. >> reporter: mitt romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change after last night's performance. >> anytime a challenger stands on the stage with the president in a first debate they tend to get a bounce. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. bu
romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. it makes perfect sense. virginia, we can't afford to double down on the same old top down economic policies that caused this mess in the first place. we cannot afford another round of tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research and technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan to grow our economy. it's sure not a plan to strengthen our middle class. we have been there, we have tried that. we're not going back, we are moving forward. we have got a different view about how we create jobs and prosperity in this country. this country doesn't just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. it succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. our economy doesn't grow from the top down, it grows from the middle out. we don't believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country, but we do believe in opportunity. w
attention to? >> i think he should continue to press the romney/ryan ticket on their specific plans and their specific promises. a $5 trillion tax cut is going to have to come on the backs of the middle class whether in the form of more expensive college tuition or more expensive medicare or more expensive taxes. they're in this la la land just saying trust us we've got you covered. that's not the way the world works. >> thank you back to you. more ahead. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas
appeared to be that romney's plans lacked specifics. >> is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans secret because it's too good? >> reporter: governor romney spent the night attacking his record. >> you have been president for four years. you said would you cut the deficit in half. it's now four years later. we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> reporter: mitt romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change after last night's performance. >> anytime a challenger stands on the stage with the president in a first debate they tend to get a bounce. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to st
of the debate for president obama appeared to be that romney's plans lacked specifics. >> is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans secret because it's too good? >> reporter: governor romney spent the night attacking his record. >> you have been president for four years. you said would you cut the deficit in half. it's now four years later. we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> reporter: mitt romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change after last night's performance. >> anytime a challenger stands on the stage with the president in a first debate they tend to get a bounce. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop
the same. that's what governor romney's plan. i love that ad. $4 trillion reduction in the debt, really, mr. president? really. he hasn't come forward with a plan. it's great ad. it sounds really nice and looks nice. but there's nothing substantive there. >> the comeback from president obama at that point, where are the details, that same question could be put to governor romney, you said hard truths in the convention, governor romney hasn't laid out which deductions will go away for the wealthy. >> the president of the united states has an obligation to be the one who's the most specific. >> so the challenger doesn't have to. >> i didn't say that. that ad does nothing to add to the debate and discussion except to not tell the truth. he starts off by not telling the truth. the president says governor romney wants more tax cuts for the rich. which is not true. governor romney said it over and over again, the rich will not pay less. >> the tax rates will come down. the same amount of money coming out of your pocket and my pocket, you're no particular time not worried. we're competing in a glo
to be around 11%. >> romney's plan says it will create new jobs, instead of part-time, helping to get it under 8% before the election. i'll help create 12 million new jobs and rising take home pay. >> romney's debate performance intersecting polls, and rasmussen shows romney inching ahead in virginia and ohio albeit within the margin of error and the daily tracking poll has the president up 5 points. romney met privately with laid off miners and blasted the president for waging war with workers, and romney that's an is crucial section of energy independence. >> i think we should put the americans back to work and it's energy abundant and cheap and burned in a clean way. >> and romney with fireworks and country car trace adkins that the president's trillion dollar stimulus would get unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now we would be at 5.4% unemployment. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-presid
trail. >> i almost got to watch out. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what mitt romney has been saying in the last year. >> vice president biden gave the romney campaign another nugget to jump on. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. yes we do. >> reporter: biden said the super wealthy needs to pay more. romney says that will kill jobs. another wild card in this race comes later this morning. the government releases its september unemployment report. experts see that jobless rate rising from the current 8.1%. >> we'll be talking about that a little later. susan mcginnis in washington. thank you so much. word this morning that a rare but deadly meningitis outbreak has the potential to get bigger. it's possible thousands of people are at risk. so far at least 35 people in six states have contracted the fungal meningitis. five have died. the shots
if he wins will basically bring a jobs recovery back? >> well, it really is the romney plan, and focus on the taxes issues. >> and the left sort of missed the idea that if you drop the marginal rate, the point down to 20% essentially what romney is talking about, then people who make income, actually, their taxes go down in only one way, if they make more income, and that's the incentivizization to make more income because you're not giving back 35% to the government. when we lower marginal tax rates, we get more from the people output in the society. >> jonas, you believe we need tax increases in the long run, in the short run, what is going to get jobs. >> and there's nothing you can do to the tax code that isn't going to hurt the job market. >> lower the marginal rates. >> you say romney wants to lower the raets and remove the deduction, let's say he removes the mortgage deduction, home builder, you're going to hire more people, and if they remove it, hire more people, probably not. you're going to bring net knew revenue to the government. not going cut enough you're going to hurt t
's comments about cutting funding to pbs. >> elmo has to watch out, too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. >> and finally, it's what supporters had hoped he would have brought up at the debate, the 47% comment made by romney at a fund raising event missing the portion of americans expected to vote for the president. >> it takes more than one party. it certainly can't happen if you are willing to write off half the nation before you take office. >> surrounded by supporters. >> we are strong and we're going to contin fighting forward. >> mr. obama hopes to keep the swing state of virginia blue for the second time in 48 years. >> if you'll vote for me in november, we will win a fairfax county again. >> at george mason university, surae chin 9news now. >> as you know, there are two more presidential debates. the next scheduled for tuesday, october 16. >>> the new estimate puts the deficit for the 2012 budget year at $1.1 trillion. this is the fourth straight year of trillion dollar deficits under president
's understand this. one thing they saw in the debate was clear. mitt romney's plan is to go back to a failed economic theory of tax cuts for the very rich, despite the fact that he denied the existence of tax cuts or the existence of math. the notion that let's go to war on wall street -- go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss. that's exactly what got us into this mess. >> that's not what they saw. i get the interpretation. you have a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be someone they'd never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising. he was a guy brimming with new ideas and energy. and they saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of
, it will be about helping the 100%. >> during wednesday night's debate, mitt romney forcefully defended his tax plan, rejecting the president's claim that his proposal would ultimately raise the tax burden on the middle class. romney has called for cutting income tax rates across the board by 20%, a move some analysts say would cost $5 trillion over a decade. but romney repeatedly rejected that assertion when it was raised by president obama, vowing instead to make up the lost revenue through scaled back loopholes and the elimination of deductions. romney campaign has released an ad claiming it's the president who would increase taxes on the middle class. >> who will raise taxes on the middle class? according to an independent, nonpartisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class by $4,000. the same organization says the plan from mitt romney and common sense conservatives is not a tax hike on the middle class. want proof? read the nonpartisan study for yourself at american.com. obama and his liberal allies, we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney. i approve
come up with a brand-new reason to avoid giving details on the romney/ryan plan. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through the math. >> the math is hard defense. good luck with that. >>> plus, todd akin goes from bad to worse. new comments from mr. legitimate rape have made him the poster child of the gop radical anti-women agenda. >>> also, republicans care a lot about voter fraud unless they are the ones doing it. we're calling them out for gross hypocrisy. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. a great clean doesn't have to take longer. i'm done. i'm gonna read one of these. i'm gonna read one of these! [ female announcer ] unlike sprays and dust rags, swiffer 360 duster's extender gets into hard-to-reach places without the hassle. so you can get unbelievable dust pickup in less time without m
say mitt romney's tax plan adds 5 trillion. about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation. >> want to repeal dodd/frank? >> and replace it. we're not going to get rid of regulation. some parts of dodd/frank that make all of the sense in the world. >> and back in june,
. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate. fresh off last night's face-off, the president is hitting the trail in key swing states. he's just touched down in madison, wisconsin, for a rally within the hour. >>> and earlier this afternoon the president described his own complete and utter surprise at the man he met last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. >> yes, followers of this broadcast will be very familiar with the many variations on the man known as willard mitt. last night it was the centrist version who greeted the president on the stage at the university of denver. >> it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romne
taxpayers $4.8 trillion. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. >> first, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale that you're talking. no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds 5 trillion. about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get go
's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycle" and joy reid, managing eder to of thegrio.com. welcome to you both. krystal, both candidates mentioned women but mitt romney suddenly seems to have discovered women. is that the mitt romney you recall? >> in some ways it is because it's like he can just say, i met a woman or i have a wife, and that's going to make things okay for women, that they're going to now trust him and his policies to be there for them. in terms of actually having a set of policies that make sense for women, we didn't hear an
. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face off against obama and biden. we caught up with running mate paul ryan saturday in new hampshire. before we sat down for an exclusive interview, we spoke briefly as he was about to it take the stage for a campaign town hall. >> what do you think just before you go out on stage each time? >> president obama is taking us in the wrong direction. mitt romney and i are offering them a different direction and i'm excited at the opportunity to give people the chance to pick that choice. that is what gets me excited about this. >> thank you so much for coming out, everybody. >> chris: congressman, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> great to be back with you, chris. welcome to new hampshire. >> chris: thank you. what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate? >> he needs to give the american people the choice that we are offering. that is what we are doing. we owe the country a cheer choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have
's no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds 5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. number two, i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that. and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people. but it's just not the case. look, i've got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. but that is not the case. all right? i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. and number 3, i will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. i will lower taxes on middle-income families. now, you cite a study. there are six other studies that looked at the study you described and say it's completely wrong. i saw a study that came out today that said you're going to raise taxes by $3,000 to $4,000 on middle-income families. there are all these studies out there. but let's get at the bottom line. that is i want to bring down rates. i want to bring down rates, at the same ti
the budget plan mitt romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? >>> welcome back to fox 5 morning news. wednesday, october 3rd, 2012. live look outside at i-270 right now. it is 5:30 in the morning. there is some fog. we have a little bit of rain this morning. >> i like how he said that. >> just a tiny bit. >> wisdom has a good voice for that. >> a second career after a retire. fog. >> fog horn. >> it is even denser in some areas than that, isn't it? >> a dense fog advisory for parts of the area. anne arundel county and out to the west too. you don't need a dense fog advisory to find some dense fog. you saw it is pretty much area- wide with all the rain we had yesterday. so a couple of extra minutes for your morning commute probably a good idea. let's take a look at our radar. we are d
plan to vote for mitt romney? >> yes, sir. i think are really just agreed -- haslett, i think it's time to get somebody else into the white house. a lot of things have happened in the last four years that have dug us into a whole. the population of the united states has increased that uses food stamps now. >> did you get anything specific from mr. romney? >> what got me about the entire debate is the fact that i felt when obama was speaking, i felt romney was more respectful in body language. he was looking at the president, not looking down or away are waiting for his time to run out. i felt like obama was looking away constantly. he was looking down at his notes, writing. i really feel like it should have been a little bit more respectful and paid more attention to mr. romney. it seemed like he did not really even give him the time of day. >> are you doing any campaigning or work for the candidates? >> no, sir. >> is that because of time? >> actually, i am a student, but it is more the fact that i was not really 100% sure who i was going to vote for until a few days ago. >> this is fr
. and let's understand this, the one thing they saw in the debate was clear -- mitt romney's plan is to back to a failed economic theory, of tax cuts for the rich. the notion that let's go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss, that's exactly what got us into this mess. that's what we've spent four years digging out. >> that's really not what they saw. i get the interpretation you've got a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be somebody they had never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising he was the guy brimming with new ideas and energy. they saw the president of the united states who was sleepwalking the whole time. >> i don't disagree -- >> the tired contrast rang a bell with people. romney's got ideas and the president, there's no vision for a second term. >> mike, i don't doubt this was somebody they never seen before. quite frankly, i think there were people in the romney campaign that had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 billion tax cut. he said i don't have tim
to press the romney/ryan ticket on their specific plans and their specific promises. a $5 trillion tax cut is going to have to come on the backs of the middle class whether in the form of more expensive college tuition or more expensive medicare or more expensive taxes. they're in this la la land just saying trust us we've got you covered. that's not the way the world works. >> thank you back to you. more ahead. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. sleep train's inventory clearance sale ends columbus day. get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. even get free delivery! don't miss 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. the inventory clearance sale ends monday. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ record in massachusetts even as he kept bringing up massachusetts over and over. described, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and lo
balance he's insisting that romney has changed his plan because he wasn't giving the obama talking points. >> well now hold on. >> the democrats have mischaracterized romney's plans up the ying yang. so when he comes forward and tells what his plans are it's a shock. they think he's lying, they think he's changed. >> it was a game changer in this respect. before the debate republicans around the country were wondering if mitt romney was going to take down the whole ticket because his campaign had been so ineffective. after the debate they were convinced he wasn't going to. he definitely had a good evening last night. whether or not it's enough to change the momentum in the race we'll know in the next few days. with respect to the plan all the democrats have done ills put a price tag. 20% across the board tax cuts make them permanent. >> that's a lie. what he said it's going to be cost neutral. >> he didn't say that until last night. >> that is just not right. he said it when he rolled it out. he said it in his speeches. >> he hasn't said how he's going to raise any revenue to make up for
. [laughter] rounding them up. elmo's got to watch out, too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but bring the hammer down on "sesame street." it makes perfect sense. [applause] virginia, we can't afford to double down on the same old top- down economic policies that caused this mess in the first place. we cannot afford another round of tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education. or clean energy. or research. and technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan to grow our economy. it's sure not a plan to strengthen our middle class. we have been there. we have tried that. we're not going back. we are moving forward. we've got a different view about how we create jobs and prosperity in this country. [applause] this country doesn't just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. succeed is when the middle lass gets bigger. our economy doesn't grow from the top down. it grows from the middle out. we don't -- we don't believe tha
, because governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut in addition to $1 trillion extension of the tax cuts, and military tax cuts. how do we pay for that, reduce the deficit, without dumping costs on to middle class americans a central question this campaign. >> both of you have spoken about a lot of different things, we'll try to get through them as specific a way as we possibly can. governor romney, do you have a question you would like to ask the question directly about something he just said? >> sure, i would like to clear up the record and go through piece by piece. first of all, i don't have a $35 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the you scale you're talking about. i think we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. but i won't reduce the share of tax paid by high-income people. the people who are having a hard time right now are middle income americans, under the presses's policies, middle income americans have been buried, have been crushed. middle income americans have seen income come down by $4,300 this is a tax in and of it
people have to ask themselves, is the reason governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? >> what we're seeing right now in my view is a trickle-down government approach which thinks that government can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. >> it's thursday, october 4th, and "starting point" begins right now. >> good morning! welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning is the morning after debate night in america. both candidates are on the campaign trail today, again, after the first of three presidential debates, the first one, of course, in denver last night. president obama and mitt romney going toe to toe on critical issues, like the economy and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look a
's reelected. i think the american people saw governor romney's plans for the future. we didn't hear much, frankly, from president obama about any second-term agenda, and he didn't have a very credible defense of his first term agenda. and i think the american people saw that last night. >> on health care he says he would repeal obama care, but he wants to protect those who are getting care with pre-existing conditions. a nonpartisan study came out and said there'd be 89 million americans who would have gap in that coverage and under president romney would not be covered. >> governor romney's made clear when he repeals obama care, which as you know has a very negative impact, not only on our economy in terms of jobs loss, but the cost of premiums have gone up by $2,500, they go up by another $2,500 if president obama's reelected. and what romney has put forward is a plan to repeal it but also replace it to hold down cost through competition. but also he's not saying we're not going to have a regulated marketplace in health care. there's a role for government in health care. and one of tho
country forward, work hard, raise families, and keep america strong. but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class, raising taxes on the average family by up t to $2,000, while giving a tax break of $250,000 to multimillionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand we can't rebuild amera by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. [ knocking ] oh, no, i got to go. oh, can you make that to go? these days, nobody has time to get sick. but minuteclinic makes it easy to get well. our nurse e practitioners can diagnose and write prescriptions for everything from strep throat to sinus infections with no appointment necessary, so you can feel better in no time. you guys want to go to the park? yeah! yeah! minuteclinic, the medical clinic in cvs/pharmacy. accepts united healthcare nefit plans. find a clininic near you at minuteclilinic.com. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- this is abc 7 news at 6:00, on your side. a task force has released recommendations for a more system. elec
steve, what do you think of this romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy going. worked for kennedy, for reagan, worked in the early part of the last decade. it will work again. >> we have to do something. since the recovery began, by the way, june 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%. that's since the recovery. when you're in a recovery, incomes are supposed to go up. >> yeah. what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions. great. i wonder if somebody will get around to telling me what those deductions and exemptions are that he's going to lower. he's been running for president for seemingly
's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> reporter: romney has proposed making the bush tax cuts permanent for all income levels and then cutting all rates an additional 20%. he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and permanently repeal the estate tax. the nonpartisan tax policy center concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said again tonight that his plan would be paid for, but to pay for those cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax code and get rid of some tax deductions, he said, and credits, but he's repeatedly refused to say which deductions he would get rid of saying that he would work with congress to make those decisions. also tonight president obama said his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion. >> we all know that we've got to do more, and so i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. it's on a website. you can look at all the numbers, what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. >> reporter: that estimate comes from the left-leaning center on budg
. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored byo the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments with two minutt answers for are the first question and then open discussion for the remainder o. each segment. o thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means.. but i made
journal" romney calls president obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate paul ryan is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, that we're pursuing. at the end of the day, i'm going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: the post debate rally is already in planning. romney and ryan will be in virginia. the president is staying in co-co. veronica? >> tracie, thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. the attack comes on a grim milestone of the war in afghanistan on sunday with the death of the 2000th u.s. service member. relations between international forces and their afghan partners have been pushed to the breaking point by a surge of insider attacks by afghan allies. >>
. centerr romney's economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cut. to try and dollars in additional military spending. -- $two trillion in additional military spending. without dumping the cost on the middle class americans. that is one of the central questions of this campaign. >> you have spoken about a lot of different things. governor romney, do you have a question you would like to ask the question directly about something he just said? >> i do not have a $-- tax cuts bill you're talking about. we have to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. our not reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. they are doing fine in the economy. the people who are having a ha time are middle income americans. under the president's policies, they have been buried. middle income americans have seen their income decreased by $4,300. this is a tax and itself -- the economy tax. gasoline prices have doubled under the president, electric rates are up, food prices are up, health care costs have gone up by $2,500 per family. the question is how to
brought a rebuke such as this one where he was appealing to senior citizens over governor romney's plans to reform medicare, listen. >> when you move to a voucher system you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart then they are stuck, and this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare substantially. >> reporter: well that response brought a sharp rebuke from the aarp which right after the debate put out a statement that said, quote, aarp has never consented to the use of its name by any candidate or political campaign. it seemed, jon, last night president obama just couldn't get a break. jon: wow smacked down at every turn it seems. john roberts. >> reporter: smacked down by the aarp. jon: whacked. thanks, john. jenna: many analysts are saying it was a victory for governor romney. that's one of the things we'll be talking about, including with bill crystal writing this in the "weekly standard." quote, mitt romney stood and delivered the best debate performance by a republic
for president obama appeared to be romney's plan lacked specifics. >> the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? >> reporter: mitt romney spent most of the night attacking the president's record. >> you've been president for four years. you said you would cut the deficit in half. it's now four years. >> reporter: romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change. >> any time a challenger stands on the stage with a president in the first debate they tend to get some bounce after that. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: a cbs poll shows romney was the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people say romney won the debate while 22% said the president had the edge. romney helped his image with voters. 63% feel he cares about their needs and problems. that's up from 30% before last night. and 56% say they like romney better after watc
something. and mitt romney would say no, that is not my plan. here it is. point number one and point two and three. the president also did this. but that was great to narrow it down in simplification of points one, two, and three. >> steve: he had a plan. >> the president also did it. but it was more compelling for mitt romney to do this because he was critized for not having specifics. >> brian: gretchen, when pressured, the governor did better and forced to get down and drill down on things, he excelled what immediately to me that set the tone and 90 minutes felt the tone was correct. the president flat out about jobs and he answered education. he was asked about jobs and answered by the education. i thought he may not have it . like george bush in 2004 not used to be crossamed and he showed that. let's listen to more. >> the fact is, if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deduction and loop holes that only affect high income individuals to avoidd either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. i
planner. and those are big differences in philosophy in government. two, romney has a tax cut plan. he has a spending cut plan. he has an energy plan. he's got to make it clear. he's got to explain to people the connection between his plans and the economic recovery that we have not yet had. that's a tall order for romney. and he's going to have to fight hard for it while the, of course is attacking him. >> you said earlier i was watching kudlow and company, you said the first impression is important. he's got to swing right away. you think he'll do that? >> that's my hunch. i've seen this before. aggressive. he's got to put this sort of line in the sand. here's what i believe. and here's what he believes. and there's a big choice in this election. he is the guy who wants redistribution. i'm the guy who wants growth. he's the guy who wants government centered economy. i'm the guy for free enterprise. he's got to say that. but it's doubly hard because he's got to put meat on the bones of his tax and spend policy. to this day, people are not quite sure what mitt romney's policies are. the pr
. the other battle over the plans for the next four years, that's where obam will be tough on romney saying he wants to give tax cuts to the wealthy and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. one thing both sides say this, could get heated tonight. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs, moderating this debate. >> jim: i'm jim lehrer. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice-presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments, with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. and for the record, they we
the republican numbers come out. they plan to send their numbers of very sen. here is what about mitt romney. -- here is one about mitt romney. some other news stories from the campaign trail. expectations run high ahead of the single chance to face off. they go head to head this week. c-span will bring that to you live. we have live coverage of the campaign 2012 season. a couple of other stories relating to congress and the campaign trail. a congressman has called evolution a live from the pit of hell. we will be talking more about congressional races in just a little bit this morning on the washington journal. here is another story from the campaign trail. the 40 day early voting period began. we want to share some other stories with the from campaign 2012. here is one related to the issue of voting and ballots from "the new york times." we are watching how ballots are counted and we will be talking more on a pro washington journal," about early voting and voting issues. we are joined on the democrats' line. do you think the american dream has been downsized? caller: i appreciate the natur
, work hard raise families, and keep america strong. but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class, raising taxes on the average family by up to $2,000 while giving a tax break of $250,000 to multimillionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand we can't rebuild america by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. president obama: during the last weeks of this campaign... there will be debates, speeches, and more ads. but if i could sit down with you, in your living room or... around the kitchen table, here's what i'd say. when i took office, we were losing nearly eight hundred... thousand jobs a month, and were mired in iraq. today, i believe that as a nation we are... moving forward again. but we have much more to do to get folks back to work and... make the middle class secure again. now, governor romney believes that with even bigger... tax cuts for the wealthy, and fewer regulations... on wall street, all of us will prosper. in other words, he'd double down on the
america strong. but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class, raising taxes on the average family by up to $2,000, while giving a tax break of $250,000 to multimillionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand we can't rebuild america by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> what a great story. adam greenburg got a rousing ovation as a pinch hitter for the marlins last night. he struck out on three pitches. he got hit in the head on the first pitch he saw at his first major league at bat more than seven years ago. he never made it back to the majors until last night. he still suffers from positional vertigo as a result of that ball hitting him in the head. >> how dangerous sports can be, right? >> quirky in the major leagues. if you get walked or hit by a pitch, it doesn't count as an official at bat. technically, yesterday was his first at bat. it's like if you ever saw field of dreams moon light graham, that was the thing, he had given up his dream to play baseball. walked and it didn't count. i watch too m
tax deduction, in the romney/ryan tax plan. not enough time. they can't even say if you will pay more or less with their tax plan. well, mitt, i'm sure president obama will give you as many of his minutes as you need to explain it all in wednesday night's debate. >> mitt romney needs a great october. >> we know romney needs a great october. >> to change the course of this campaign. >> the final push is on. >> just days away from the first presidential debate. >> both candidates cramming for the first debate. >> everyone trying to lower expectations. >> franticly spinning to lower expectations. >> >> president obama is an experienced debatetor. >> i'm just okay. >> almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell thvernlths is mitt's first time. >> i don't buy that. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> this is mitt's first time. >> are you stupid? >> overselling with
romney tax plan thattadds $5 trillion. number two, i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i have five boys. i am used to people sang something that is not always true, but to keep on repeating it and hoping all the mahli i will believe it. that is the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. i will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle income families. there are a ton of studies hat looked at the study described and say this simply wrong. i saw a study that came out today that says you are going to raise taxes by $3,000 to four income families. on middle let's get to the bottom line. i want to bring the rates down at the same time i lower deductions and exemptions and so forth so we keep getting the revenue read. the reason is because small business pays that individual rate. 54% of america's workers work in businesses that are taxeddnot at the corporate tax rate, but at the individual tax rate. if we lower that rate, they will be able to hire more people. for me, this is about jobs. this is about jobs for the americ
in governor romney's plan to end the week on top. how is the republican nominee reacting spinning away saying quote -- >> but other obama critics, perhaps furious that good economic news might derail the romney swagger, instead they opted for conspiracy theories regarding the satitions behind the unemployment numbers. former chairman and ceo of ge jack welch tweeted -- welch was backed in his theorizing by master of the outlandish alan west who wrote -- this is orwellian to say the least and representative of saul au lin ski tactics from the book rules for radicals" a must read for all who want to know how the left strategize. what's that you say, a strengthening work force and recovering economy or wellien indeed. >> they want to slow the economy before the election and if you don't believe that -- >> that was a year and a half ago. >> i have a bridge i want to sell you in oakland. that's what the republicans and obstructionists in congress is about. >> joining us is cnbc's amman jabbers. you're the man with the answers. mitt romney is walking on stage and we'll have to go to him shortly but
paying the same. that's what governor romney's plan is. so, what i would say, i love that ad. the president gets to say, a million new manufacturing jobs? how? $4 trillion reduction in the debt, really, mr. president? really. how? he hasn't endorsed his own plan. he hasn't come forward with a plan. it's a great ad. i have no doubt about that. it sounds really nice and looks nice. but there's nothing substantive there. >> i can imagine the comeback from president obama at that point, where are the details, that same question could be put to governor romney, you said hard truths in the convention, but governor romney hasn't laid out which deductions will go away for the wealthy. >> listen, the president of the united states has an obligation after four years of being president, to be the one who's the most specific. >> so the challenger doesn't have to? >> i didn't say that. he has the bigger obligation. that ad does nothing to add to the debate and discussion, except to not tell the truth. he starts off by not telling the truth. which is, the president says governor romney wan
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